As expected, Advanced Micro Devices on Tuesday updated the family of its highest-performance desktop central processing units. The new FX chips utilize new Piledriver micro-architecture and operate at higher clock-speeds, thus deliver about 15% higher performance compared to last year’s FX products.
“Gamers and PC enthusiasts who buy AMD FX processors have even more to cheer about with the increased speeds and value we are delivering starting today. After introducing the industry’s first and only eight-core desktop processor last year, we now have even faster stock frequencies and an all-new, high-performance x86 core architecture to satisfy power-users,” said Leslie Sobon, vice president of desktop and component products at AMD.
AMD FX "Vishera" central processing units sport up to eight Piledriver (second-generation Bulldozer) x86 cores with 1MB L2 per core, dual-channel DDR3 memory controller, 8MB L3 cache, Turbo Core 3.0 dynamic performance boosting technology and new instructions. Piledriver’s Front End now has a more precise branch predictor and a larger instruction window. The execution units acquired an enhanced scheduler and learned to process individual instructions faster, such as integer and floating-point division, for example. Moreover, the developers claim that they have increased the L1 TLB size and improved the data prefetch and arbitrating algorithms in the L2 cache.
Piledriver x86 cores use a new resonant clock mesh technology developed by Cyclos Semiconductor, which allows to cut power consumption by 10%, or boost clock-speed by 10% (compared to Bulldozer) without increase of TDP. As a result, AMD FX-8350 is the first multi-core desktop chip to officially conquer 4GHz clock-speed milestone, something that took many years to achieve. Thanks to the new technology, one can expect AMD’s team of professional overclockers to achieve never-before-seen 9GHz frequency (current record is 8.7GHz) with the new FX-8350 models.
The new AMD FX chips are compatible with AM3+ infrastructure as well as Scorpius platform featuring AMD 990FX core-logic sets. Given their higher performance out-of-the-box as well as potential for development, owners of AMD’s FX chips from last year should consider an upgrade opportunity.
While AMD put a lot of effort into improving the Piledriver and Vishera, due to general limitations of the Bulldozer-class micro-architectures, the new chips cannot offer performance comparable to Intel Corp.’s Core i7-3770K as well as Core i5-3570K “Ivy Bridge” microprocessors. As a result, AMD has to sell the new products at lowered prices between $122 and $195.
AMD positions its FX series for gamers and enthusiasts in budget, who cannot afford more expensive offerings from Intel. Considering the fact that performance in modern video games mostly depends on capabilities of a graphics processing units, such approach is completely justified.
Tags: AMD, FX, Piledriver, Vishera, Viperfish, 32nm, Bulldozer, Zambezi
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Anton, please do something about the diarrhea jmlxg and AvonX keep spewing all over any article with AMD in its name. This is very unprofessional to have such comments in a technology discussion. If we are going to have a proper discussion, people need to keep it clean. If there is no regulation of comments on a place like this, it is a target for abuse.
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Posted by: mmstick
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Date: 10/23/12 09:39:46 PM]
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Stop whining like a baby you fag and grow up. The only diarrhea in here is the fx-8350 and stop calling me with bad names. You asked for this not me.
Just because we did not like the effort from AMD that has put into this product does not mean that everybody must agree with you. If its GOOD ENOUGH for you, it does not mean its good enough for the rest of us.
And by the way, you know nothing about technology.
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Posted by: AvonX
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Date: 10/23/12 10:27:57 PM]
Do you mean fag as in cigarette or fag as in homosexual?
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/23/12 11:24:01 PM]
Oh yeah? I have formal education within the field of technology. I have both degrees and certifications (Linux+, Network+, A+, Server+, and a bachelors degree in Information Technology), and I am also a Newegg EggXpert reviewer, and have experience working in the IT sector of a large hospital, what about you?
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Posted by: mmstick
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Date: 10/23/12 11:41:58 PM]
Too bad non of those has made you to think straight. Which means you are brain dead.
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Posted by: AvonX
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Date: 10/23/12 11:50:11 PM]
Oh, so my ability to engage in advanced technical discussions relevant to the topic at hand instead of derailing the topic by the use of flinging dung at everyone makes me brain dead? Oh really now.
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Posted by: mmstick
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Date: 10/24/12 12:41:43 AM]
I hope we hear more of your informed opinions. We need quality contributors to provoke thought and discussion.
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/24/12 12:24:57 AM]
In regards to jmlxg and AvonX - he/she is the same person who also posts to Fudzilla under the name Jesse Lee. This person either has a mental illness, a personality disorder, an autism spectrum disorder (Aspergers) or is paid by Intel to post rabidly on these influential tech sites.
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/24/12 12:16:16 AM]
LOL
You guys are soo funny and always assuming that he/she is the other guy at Fudzilla or AvonX is the same person as jmlxg. Well if your silly friend on the top and you are such geniuses as you are claiming to be it would not be so difficult for you to understand that me and jmlxg are not the same person or the other one you are saying at fudzilla. LOL
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Posted by: AvonX
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Date: 10/24/12 12:23:44 AM]
@AvonX/ jmlxg - Here are some of your posts made recently on Fudzilla under the name Jesse Lee... it is in your unmistaken and pathetic style familiar to all Xbitlabs sufferers -
Jesse Lee: "DIE AMD DIE"
Jesse Lee: "Wrong Wrong and more Wrong. It only wins in a few benchmarks and USES WAY too much power. Say bye bye AMD"
Jesse Lee: "AMD is FAR WORSE THEY FAKE ALL OF THE TIME"
source: ww.fudzilla.com/home/item/29200-amd-officially-launched-new-vishera-fx-series-cp us
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/24/12 12:38:44 AM]
You are an idiot, there is really not much i can say to you other than you should probably see a doctor. i don't care of what do you think really since you are brain dead just like your friend of yours.
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Posted by: AvonX
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Date: 10/24/12 12:43:33 AM]
Am I an idiot? No, I don't quite think so. You are going to have to do better than that. Let's compare a few more posts, to other ones. Here's another one from Jesse Lee posting to itportal.com
Jesse Lee: "AHAHAHAHAH. DIE AMD DIE IN FIRE AHAHAHAHAHAH."
source: ww.itproportal.com/2012/10/15/amd-is-foundering-have-its-executives-forgotten-how -to-run-a-company/
And here's one from Xbitlabs
jmlxg: "By the time AMD can use ANY of the new and up to date Processes IT WILL BE WAY TOO LATE. You see they will before THEY CAN EVEN USE the new processes from these foundries. On a side note Kaveri is the key and because AMD is way too late with their cash cow they are DOWN TO THE GRAVE. DIE AMD DIE AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!"
source: ww.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20121022072623_TSMC_Laids_Process_Technology _Roadmap_Out.html
Now I have a burning question for you. Is Jesse a boy's name or a girl's name. Or maybe it's like Boy George?
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/24/12 02:36:56 AM]
Probably its your brother or your genius friend on top. LOL
Man what sort of an idiot are you following some random idiots on websites? You don't have better things to do? Are you gay or something?
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Posted by: AvonX
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Date: 10/24/12 08:52:56 AM]
I'm afraid you are guilty until you can prove to us otherwise. It is way too eerily resembling of you. Judging by how you respond, that makes it seem even more suspicious. If this seriously is you, I think you need to quickly contact a psychologist and schedule an appointment.
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Posted by: mmstick
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Date: 10/24/12 05:13:54 PM]
Here is some more information that relates to jmlxg's profile on other sites - a DISQUS login for Jesse Lee that shows trolling on multiple tech sites.
http://disqus.com/google-...0f04271177ca6ae209b9223a/
There are more surprises to come. They will be revealed only if jmlxg and his second troll head AvonX (whether alias, friend or fellow employee) don't leave this forum.
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/24/12 07:07:05 PM]
Obsessive much Trolling is fun especially when you're troll'n a bunch of Fanbois.
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Posted by: 123
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Date: 10/24/12 07:53:25 PM]
@123 Your profile was established on 24th October 2012... and your tone sounds familiar... Hmmm.... But let not this derail the main event.
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/25/12 12:29:13 AM]
You moron this forum is dead without us because nearly nobody is interested in AMD products.
You are here talking by yourself. LoL
Just face it, AMD is dead just as you are. I can hook you up with dan_fag_amd you guys make a perfect match. LoL
Pretty much AMD fan-boys like you run and cry at moderators just because AMD Processors suck balls.
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Posted by: AvONbaCK
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Date: 10/25/12 01:45:22 AM]
It is pretty clear that you have a half-dozen user names on Xbitlabs. I have identified that you've got at least 2 user names on Fudzilla. So the answer is no longer how jmlxg / AvonX / 123 / AvONbaCK but rather why? Could you tell the long suffering Xbit readers why you have multiple usernames and make multiple postings on multiple tech sites trashing AMD so systematically and unconvincingly? What's your hidden agenda?
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/25/12 06:06:35 AM]
No, that would be beenthere (you know, the one with the autism).
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Posted by: cosminmcm
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Date: 10/24/12 10:33:28 AM]
Many aspergers are IT people. Someone with asperger syndrome means that their interests are minute, but to what they are interested in, their interest exceeds to an extreme degree. You won't find someone with better knowledge on a specific subject than one with asperger syndrome. I have asperger syndrome myself, as do many within my field. I know a few others within IT who have autism, and they are the best at their job than any regular Joe. Therefore, it isn't wise to brush off people with autism with a negative connotation, but it a highly desirable aspect for someone looking to hire IT personnel.
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Date: 10/24/12 05:01:40 PM]
I agree with everything you say mmstick. But a feature of Aspergers is sometimes a pathological obsessiveness - that's where I was leading. I often work with patients with Aspergers. You might enjoy the English comedy called Doc Martin. He is a doctor with Aspergers who is a very good doctor. His only problem is that he is a little blunt/ frank in his interactions with patients. He also doesn't understand that a very beautiful woman, a local teacher, is in loves with him. She constantly pursues him only to fail at the last hurdle because he can't pick up her innuendo or read the situation very well. It makes for really funny humour. But it is also respectful of people with Aspergers.
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/24/12 07:18:14 PM]
Both of them need to be perma banned.
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Posted by: BestJinjo
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Date: 10/24/12 06:06:29 PM]
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So what AMD has achieve to clock their processors to 4 GHz and above. That amount of speed and lower performance compared to Intel processors does not compensate for anything. It would of been nice if AMD took a risk and engineer these FX processors with a lot more oomph. Probably if AMD did this, people will consider buying AMD processors and I do not have to be sad to type this. A $200 for the top processor from AMD and it still can not compete. AMD is really ruin their FX brand for their enthusiast processors. AMD should think of concentrating resources to either APU or FX, but not both. Both will spread AMD's resources too thin and resources is already too runny since AMD already kick out more people and the most important people the engineers.
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Date: 10/23/12 09:51:22 PM]
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"AMD should think of concentrating resources to either APU or FX, but not both. Both will spread AMD's resources too thin and resources is already too runny since AMD already kick out more people and the most important people the engineers."
I totally agree with you on that, i have been saying that the more logical approach for AMD is to stick to graphics alone and give someone else the chance to come with more serious cpu's in the market. AMD is too weak now they cannot longer be in all those segments. Or at least let them stick with apu's as well but let someone else to deliver on high end desktop parts. Consumers need a more healthy market and not at its current state. Obviously AMD cannot deliver anymore and they are only causing harm to the market.
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Date: 10/23/12 11:01:48 PM]
If AMD stops their CPU business and stick with graphics. AMD will only get their money from high-end graphics. Intel already serves the purpose on the low-end graphics. nVidia is already seeing this. AMD is also seeing this in their sales, so AMD should move resources from FX to APU. AMD is already making APU for tablets and notebooks, so only a logical choice to do this. APU for desktops also will get better performance when AMD moves resources from FX to APU.
If AMD stops CPU business, that will hurt the market too. Intel will increase the price of their processors and monopoly will be higher for 80x86 than it should.
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Date: 10/24/12 11:55:44 AM]
I would say a BIG f*ck off to AMD and i cant wait till they are finally finished so someone else could step up the game where AMD cannot deliver.
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Posted by: AvonX
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Date: 10/24/12 12:21:19 PM]
Apparently no one else agrees, and would rather say big eff off to you.
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Date: 10/24/12 05:04:25 PM]
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I used to come to xbitlabs for the usually insightful and in-depth comments. This is no longer the case.
You need to moderate the comment section or you will lose your readers, it is as simple as that.
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Date: 10/24/12 01:26:20 AM]
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You could contact the CEO of the site. But in reality, this guy or girl would probably come bounding back under several different user names again. I agree, they need to moderate this section actively. This is what happens in the real world where antisocial behaviour is handled by the law/police or by social exclusion/ restricting access. If we were in a group talking in a room, we would have thrown out AvonX / jmlxg and locked the door a long time ago. But here in cyberspace we have our hands tied.
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Posted by: linuxlowdown
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Date: 10/24/12 02:52:04 AM]
I agree, too many people here voicing their mind with out the thought of Netiquette. For those people if you have nothing better to say, do not say it. That is just manners on the Internet.
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Date: 10/24/12 12:03:39 PM]
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AMD this thime delivered what they have promised. 8350 is a good cpu. What amd lacks is a overall fastest cpu when compared to intel, fx x4 is faster than i3, fx x8 is as fast as i5 and then intel has i7, thats good for them. Unless you are buying core i7 everyone should reconsider amd.
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Its not even close in performance than the i5-3570k. Perhaps you should check again before you are making claims. And lets leave aside the power draw and gaming cause there is no doubt that is ugly for the fx-8350.
Edit: Oops looks like AMD shares are still going down and after the release of vishera and trinity. Looks like there is not much sales going on for AMD. Nobody in the right mind would buy vishera unless you already got am3+ board and still i would say to scrap it and go for intel.
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Date: 10/24/12 08:58:37 AM]
Not according to Phoronix
http://www.phoronix.com/s...0_visherabdver2&num=4 You just lost the game, already defeats the 3770k in a variety of tasks. Anything that uses integers (99% real world software and games) will perform better with the AMD platform, due to AMD processors having significantly more integer resources than Intel processors. We also see that current compilers need some patches to address the recently released architecture. Some tests with LLVM/Clang would be interesting to see further down the road.
No people buying?
http://www.overclock.net/...0-vishera-owners-club/200 Doesn't look like it to me.
Newegg Reviews:
http://www.newegg.com/Pro...aspx?Item=N82E16819113284 Five stars, people love it.
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Date: 10/24/12 05:08:38 PM]
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Don't believe the prices posted by AMD as the least expensive I could find (Newegg) at $219 for the FX8350 said that CPU prices fluctuate...BUT THE SAME DAY AMD INTRODUCES THEM AT THAT PRICE?
AMD STILL HAS THEM AS "LESS THAN $200", but you cannot buy them directly from AMD.
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Date: 10/24/12 05:10:53 PM]
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Newegg always charges 20+$ above the AMD price on launch since they are popular and there is always high demand for new processors, they can get away with it due to demand and loyalty to newegg. It might take a bit longer, but within a month you should find AMD prices everywhere. The AMD price is what they suggest retailers to sell them at, not that they have to comply.
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Date: 10/24/12 05:35:46 PM]
Even less reason to buy AMD's CPU's. They are only popular with people like AMD too much. Intel is a better value its faster and uses less power.
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Date: 10/24/12 07:57:41 PM]
Please, do tell. How does retail prices on launch have anything to do with AMD, Intel, or anyone for that matter?
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