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The steam keeps going out of AMD as it continues to develop new products, but that does not mean that Steamroller-based accelerated processing units are due in 2013. Apparently, Advance Micro Devices plans to continue to use Piledriver cores with its code-named Richland APUs next year. Moreover, there are no new FX-series chips planned for 2013.

AMD has reportedly cancelled its code-named Kaveri chip with x86 Steamroller processing cores and will substiture it with code-named Richland accelerated processing unit with Piledriver x86 cores. The new chip will have new AMD Radeon stream processors, which will be presumably based on GCN (graphics core next) architecture. AMD’s Richland will remain compatible with FM2 platforms, which points to similar thermal design option.

A slide published by Donanim Haber web-site also points out that AMD’s FX 8300/6300/6300-series code-named Vishera processors will continue to be AMD’s top-of-the-range desktop offerings in 2013.

Steamroller x86 cores – which will power AMD's future  high-performance Opteron and FX chips – will be located inside dual-core modules and therefore processors on their base should be similar by design with Orochi and Viperfish, with some minor exceptions that will not be truly important (new memory controller, different internal buses additional tweaks, etc) for x86 performance. The main improvements will be independent instruction decoders for each core within a module, better schedulers, larger and smarter caches, more register resources and some other enhancements.

One of the reasons why dual-core Bulldozer modules [the same may be said about Piledriver] are not completely efficient  is because they have only one instruction decoder for two ALUs and one FPU. With steamroller, AMD not only incorporated two decoders per module, but also increased instruction cache size (to lower i-cache misses by 30%), enhanced instruction pre-fetch (the number of mis-predicted branches is down by 20% compared to Bulldozer ) as well as improved max-width dispatches per thread by 25%. AMD believes that Steamroller will provide 30% improvement in ops per cycle.

AMD also advanced single-core execution by implementing 5%-10% more efficient scheduling, incorporated higher-capacity register files and performed some other tweaks. It should be noted that while integer pipes of Steamroller will not be too different from existing ones, the floating point pipe will be a bit redesigned. In general, AMD promises that both integer and floating point per-core performance of Steamroller will be higher than they are today with Bulldozer micro-architecture.

One of the interesting features of AMD Steamroller will be its ability to disable unused parts of L2 cache. Since not all apps are cache-bound, this may result in decreased power consumption and/or AMD's ability to boost clock-speeds of its microprocessors dynamically.

 AMD did not comment on the news-story.

Tags: AMD, Richland, FX, Kaveri, Vishera

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AMD classic. The firm's determination to fail is amazing. Everyone, even intel fanboys want AMD to put a successful fight, but no... Delayed releases, failures to meet promised performance levels...

Oh please do succeed. Else, intel will charge $100 for celerons.
13 14 [Posted by: eleman  | Date: 11/05/12 01:50:04 AM]
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Apparently you haven't met Avon and 123. I'm not sure where you got the idea about determination to fail from this, however.

I wouldn't expect Steamroller until about 16 months after Piledriver's release, however, which is the norm for new processors. Piledriver delivered promised performance levels, Bulldozer had inflated promises. Delayed releases?
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3 17 [Posted by: eleman  | Date: 11/05/12 02:12:45 AM]
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How are either of these a problem? They are actually quite logical. You do realize there are HD 7970X2s in existence, for everyone who was interested in them. Trinity's release alongside Vishera is a perfectly logical move.
20 17 [Posted by: mmstick  | Date: 11/05/12 02:17:51 AM]
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2 15 [Posted by: eleman  | Date: 11/05/12 02:31:19 AM]
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Of course I asked about product delays, so you answered, now I am asking you why this is a problem, as the delays you listed aren't really relevant enough for one to produce negative feelings.

"Delayed releases, failures to meet promised performance levels..."

Delayed releases is not something AMD would do on purpose unless there is a good reason to do so. You came off in a very negative fashion, which made me wonder why you seemed so negative towards AMD.

To answer your question, no it does not. My mind is composed differently. It is highly optimized to be extremely logical, therefore I think critically at all times, I have aspergers.
20 17 [Posted by: mmstick  | Date: 11/05/12 02:38:01 AM]
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3 18 [Posted by: 123  | Date: 11/05/12 09:04:00 AM]
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This isn't from Xbitlabs, this is from Donanimhaber, therefore it is not fact.

That is discrimination, people with aspergers know far more than you do about technology.
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0 5 [Posted by: PnoyP  | Date: 11/06/12 03:51:27 PM]
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"You have aspergers yet you can't see the truth Foolish"

@123 Hey pal, if you ever ever pull that one again consider yourself to get a permanent ban. That was a thinly veiled insult at a guy whose got the courage to say who he is. Unlike yourself hiding behind multiple accounts like a coward, spitting out bull and vile attacks like a machine with an obvious agenda that you never disclose. Insulting people for being different from yourself does not fly in a civilised society. Did you like it when the kids called you a slinky eyed yella? You did not get to choose your parents either. Albert Einstein had Aspergers and he saw more than most people - Aspergers has survived in the gene pool for a good reason. I always have time for such people because they are knowledgeable and passionate about what interests them. And just like mmstick, I often come away learning something I did not know.
22 15 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/05/12 08:09:25 PM]
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2 12 [Posted by: j7  | Date: 11/06/12 12:39:34 AM]
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Yup, hear you, any Central Processing Unit contains logic of it's own

DAMNs FM1 socket which was soon to be obsoleted amnd AM3+ socket are two completely different market segments. So there's no logic at all.

AMD just did a favor for their mobo designers to move as much as they could stocked FM1 mobos which are incompatible with FM2 APUs (Even thou FM2-904 pin and FM1 is 905 pin so i dont know how you could stuff FM1 into FM2 but DAMN claimed they support it ... OBVIOUSLY NOT)
And why they did it because AMD fail to ramp up Llano when they have initiative
http://semiaccurate.com/2...an-scores-all-in-one-day/

So it was pure cartel decision. Not any logic or care about customers have nothing to do with it.
17 11 [Posted by: OmegaHuman  | Date: 11/05/12 07:53:59 PM]
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5 18 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/05/12 07:18:36 AM]
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Xbitlabs did not recognize it, Anton only stated that Donanimhaber posted about it. Do you seriously believe everything you read at Donanimhaber?

The only one to slow to grasp is you, slow to grasp reality that is.
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5 16 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/05/12 12:33:48 PM]
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It's bad execution. And to expect Steamroller only in 2014 is like to expect it on 22nm ... and it's supposedly have to be an evolutionary 28m core.

AMD (supposedly that this are their real slides) want to inform us that they really don't care. And thats bad in any case. They're not in position where they been in 2005 and that they can deliberately obstructing wider adoption of their Athlon64 X2 into desktop segment.

AMD we dont want to wait for another Faildoser do be tested exclusively for Server Customers. If you'd release BD at 45nm even w/ SSE5 only we wouldnt have such mess now. Only that you're doing is deliberately rising CPU prises of your competition ... kinda like you did with failure of R600 when nvidia skyrocket GPU prices and they remained pretty much unchanged until today. So you again rise up desktop CPU prices waiting something you know you could deliver last year in 2014. Gee tnx AMD.
18 13 [Posted by: OmegaHuman  | Date: 11/05/12 07:47:03 PM]
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Explain how they don't care. They can't release Piledriver until 28nm fabs are ready, which they won't be until 2014. If you want to complain to someone, complain to the Fab companies who keep delaying their manufacturing nodes.
16 16 [Posted by: mmstick  | Date: 11/05/12 08:14:45 PM]
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Well GLoFo claimed their 28nm SOI node is only 6 month behind 32nm node. But that was 6month before they even start to produce on 32nm SOI (Sep 2010) but they claimed its mature enough to see production in 3-4 month. And then have problems ramping up 32nm SOI until Q2 2012

I guess it's *really* hard to expect that 28nm SOI could ramp up in early Q2 2013??

I didnt benefit form selling Fabs to GloFo. AMD did.
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3 10 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/05/12 09:55:34 PM]
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OmegaHuman - You're a smart guy. You and I don't know what is actually going on behind the scenes at AMD. But one thing is for sure. We are in the biggest economic slump since the 1930s. Companies like AMD are really just trying to survive it in tact (and they will). Sharp announced this week that its company will probably fold unless they have significant investment to refinance debt. Toshiba and Panasonic announced large deficits. You cannot demand too much at this time in history in terms of consumer and business products. Intel is unique in that it is a company in its industry with an almost monopoly and has held its position for at least the last 20 years. It has large cash reserves. And it is drawing on them to squeeze the competition during this time. AMD is nearly having a heart attack keeping up but its not on the table like other companies. The longer the recession continues, the more fate plays into Intel's hands. It's not good for the industry or consumers in the long run.
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4 17 [Posted by: 123  | Date: 11/05/12 09:18:36 AM]
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What happend to AMD's push for Steamroller? With an insider claiming 45% increase in performance versus today's Piledriver.

AMD Pushes Steamroller and Excavator Forward, Bullish about Performance Increases

Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articl.../17088.html#ixzz2DTk4li4g
1 0 [Posted by: nt300  | Date: 11/27/12 06:10:59 PM]
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Anton, it isn't a good idea to make an article based on something you read from Donanimhaber. It's a rumor mill, it is more often than not, completely made up. If you want to make an article, you should investigate the source, contact AMD and ask them about the slide. However, HSA enhancements sound nice, but HSA isn't supposed to come until 2014.
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Whilst it is regrettable, it is also predictable that AMD would focus on low power laptop and tablet designs at the expense of the desktop market that is shrinking due to the poor economic climate. The company is in the middle of a restructure after the latter half of last decade which saw Intel take the CPU crown and then the hit of the financial crisis (which is now into its 5th year). AMD must chase where the money currently is with their limited resources. I would call it competent business management. Don't expect anything spectacular from AMD in terms of direct answers to Intel until America and Europe are out of recession - probably 2016. Why launch your best products in the middle of a down turn? It's like winning a poker game when there are no chips on the table to take. But you can expect AMD's HSA to begin to mature (hardware and software) around 2016.
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Headline: Apple Set To Switch From Intel Because They're Not Serious About Low Power Design

ww.businessweek.com/news/2012-11-05/apple-said-to-be-exploring-switch-from-intel -chips-for-the-mac#p2


Quote: "Apple’s technologists have grown more concerned in recent years about Intel’s ability to create lower-power chips. The computer maker has brought out thinner, lighter products such as the MacBook Air that have less room for the batteries needed to keep Intel’s powerful chips running all day, according to three people familiar with the relationship.

The concerns came to a head in late 2011. Apple was working on thinner versions of its MacBook line, featuring its power- hungry high-resolution retina display, and Intel had failed to convince Apple executives it was serious about focusing on lower-power chips. Apple executives, including Mansfield, met repeatedly with their Intel counterparts to share their questions, and to tell the chipmaker it was examining ways to use its own chips in the Mac line, one of the people said."
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Well, what that means is that you won't be able to do any power computing with Apple products. They are designed for fangirls to do their Facebook 24/7 with a once weekly recharge. I reckon that it will be the death of Apple as a serious OS player. Microsoft will get their big foot firmly back in the door and they'll never take it away again. Apple should be now trying to take the business market. But a move away from Intel (or the possibility of AMD) means that this will be less likely because x86 is more productive for business software that relies on single threaded performance and serious graphics - ARM on the desktop or laptop won't be embraced by IT departments.
21 13 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/05/12 07:48:50 PM]
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And why should we care. It's not like Apple products will become cheaper if they turn away from Intel :rofl:

What has that to do with Steamroller core discussion?

(rumormill) AMD will hold up on public release of Stemroller so they'd give up Apple their Kabini based APUs a yer before they came to market? :not-so-funny:
17 12 [Posted by: OmegaHuman  | Date: 11/05/12 08:08:28 PM]
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Rumour mill - Apple will be using Steamroller core with real graphics because Steam was just ported in July 2012. This is a move to counter upcoming next gen consoles and the fact that Intel graphics is only good for playing Space Invaders and Nvidia's is like a tax on top. Tim Cook was spotted at Valves HQ earlier in 2012. Availability to other channels will not happen for a year as all production is reserved and diverted to Apple.

Quote: "Newell (Steam co-founder) added at the time (2007) that video games are "one of the biggest things holding them back in the consumer space. If you look at a Macintosh right now, it does a lot of things really well compared to a Vista PC, but there are no games. Why, I don't know. If I were a Macintosh product manager, it would be pretty high on my list."

Steve Jobs was obviously not for gaming. I'm sure he had his reasons - probably related to controlling product and profit. But the competitive landscape is always changing.

http://appleinsider.com/a..._gaming_headquarters.html

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3 10 [Posted by: 123  | Date: 11/05/12 09:48:42 PM]
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It's not a fact weasel ware. First words were "rumour mill". But you took it seriously because you're intense like Tom Cruise and Scientology, ever willing to defend your Intel cult.
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WHAT the heck are you smoking linuxlowdown?
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A man of few words, a man of few thoughts. You better wait until your dexamphetamine kicks in next time.
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You are tag teaming with your second and third login again, voting people up and down thrice. That's what's pathetic. Not playing by the rules just like your favourite company.
21 12 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/05/12 01:14:24 PM]
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i hope to provoke those 123 and avon guy (yup, i still think it's the same person), he is probably at school, since no "AMD IS DEAD" posted. yet

HSA gives reasonable chance for AMD to survive in the future, if they can make through next few years, perhaps even make intel run for its money in time. any try by AMD alone to succeed with APU would probably be doomed, but open project which include lot of big players like samsung, lg and whole risc-bunch is almost a sure thing - which means superior GPU unit in AMD processors will be utilized by all compilers, software and OSes.

now a question which puzzles me for years (avon and 123, please): how come that intel, with all its money, influence, fabs and R&D power, hasn't been able to make usable graphic? like, ever? sure, they sold more GC and IGP than all others combined, but they sucked... always

how come? i don't claim that they couldn't, they should be able to, yet they never did. and not that they haven't tried... and don't tell that they will have uber-GPU in two years, cause they won't. and don't tell that APU is useless - look what cray supercomputer uses - CPU+GPU in 1:1 ratio.

[short GC lecture for 123&avon - PC graphics originates from IBM, then they left it to small companies like trident, tseng labs etc (intel made GC also for couple of years - without success), then we had 'accelerators' (S3), then 3d accelerators (voodoo), then T&L hardware acceleration - nvidia killed all competition, then ati made comeback. over]

EDIT: oh, time flies - he's back
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how much intel dick do you suck?
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3 14 [Posted by: 123  | Date: 11/05/12 01:36:10 PM]
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He also gives himself thumb ups.
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3 12 [Posted by: 123  | Date: 11/05/12 05:27:49 PM]
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It can be done in your private time.
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4 14 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/05/12 11:23:56 AM]
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Even to pay you for comments on Xbitlabs....
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I think their new APUs will be competitive with the Celerons/Pentiums/i3s, at least with better video acceleration. They probably won't have a high end FX comparable to i7 3800k, but that's old news.
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AMD hasn't had a faster CPU since 2006 and before that lost nearly every generation aside from A64/X2. And yet, they are still around. Using your logic, AMD should have been bankrupt a long time ago. AMD has forfeited the high-end CPU performance crown to Intel since 2006. As I said before, Intel has beaten AMD in the high-end CPU space in every single generation in performance above $200 since Core 2 Duo days. This is nothing knew but it doesn't mean AMD will go bankrupt in 2013.

No company in the world has been able to create a faster CPU than Intel above $200 aside from Intel's minor mistake with Netburst. AMD will simply have to find growth in other markets like micro-servers, and continue to focus on price/performance with its CPUs, while pushing HSA with its GCN+CPU APUs.

If you want a high-end gaming CPU, you go Intel. This has been repeated over and over but you, Avon and some other familiar AMD haters continue to state the obvious, which everyone here already knows. By constantly stating "AMD is going to fail," "their days are numbered," "they are finished," blah blah blah, you are contributing nothing of value to these discussions.

We already knew that AMD won't beat Haswell in performance...no need to repeat the obvious 1000x. Even if Steamroller was going to be on time, Intel's 1 node manufacturing lead and IPC advantage would have ensured it is the superior choice for high-end gamers anyway.

AMD doesn't have enough $ to focus on high-end CPUs (shrinking market where Intel has beaten every firm anyway). At this point in time in AMD's history and given the shrinking PC market, it makes no sense to continue to waste billions of dollars AMD doesn't have to try to beat Core i7 so little Johnny gets 20 fps faster frames in Crysis 3. The whole world knows the market is going to tablets and smartphones and not a single company has been able to make a faster high-end CPU than Intel anyway. The new strategy for AMD should be to find new growth opportunities, focus on GPUs and forget the high-end CPU market entirely for 5 years until they have made enough $ to revisit this later when they are in a better financial position to able to compete with a company 75x larger than them.

In 10-15 years from now, it could very well be the case that 90% of consumer devices are dominated by low power, cheap CPUs. AMD already tried making $ on high-end CPUs and it didn't work. Time to try something else.
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First you say they need to be faster than Intel, then you say they need to be more efficient, then you say they need to be faster, then you say they nee to consume less power.

Can you make up your mind already?

The low power x86 market will benefit from the ARM agreement.
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That would make perfect sense, any delays at the fabs would also delay any processors.
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Yup. That suck big time. But as AMD was never really focused to offer proper performance thru compilers for their CPUs it's not like we should expect that suddenly they're really try hard to improve their x86 performance

Bulldozer is probably great on something that isnt ordinary x86 OS, but that they didnt even try to deliver their design on time that's suck^3 .. So we're stuck with some gay Win8 that still doesnt play well with anything aside 4 cores ... woo-hoo
18 11 [Posted by: OmegaHuman  | Date: 11/05/12 08:22:03 PM]
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First, studies done at Phoronix detailed early this year that AMD's own C++ compiler outperformed Intel's C++ compiler, even for compiling to Intel processors. So the question is, why are people still using Intel C+ if AMD's compiler produces faster binaries for both AMD and Intel. Better yet, why not have everyone move to CLANG/LLVM?


Second, No one is stopping you from installing something like Ubuntu. Linux has the best scheduler on the planet right now, although there was a recent study done that demonstrated that the BFS (Brain F*** Scheduler) somehow performed significantly better than the CFS (Completely Fair Scheduler) in performance, and slightly higher responsiveness. Funny thing, CFS is far superior to Windows' lame scheduler.
18 13 [Posted by: mmstick  | Date: 11/05/12 08:34:57 PM]
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Anton,

Each module contains WAY more than two ALUs. Since the Pentium, x86 processors have had more than one (superscalar).

It would be better to say that each module has one set of ALUs.
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Haha, Avon/123 downvoted you for that.

TA152H is true, anyone who knows about processors understands this.

FX processors have two integer units per module, with 2 ALUs and 2 AGUs inside each integer unit, which is a total of 4 ALUs and 4 AGUs per module.
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Yup all those functionality crammed into same space. You forgot LSU I guess it doesnt rhyme well with ALU+AGU mantra
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You cant teach someone who's in business of delivering news. He really dont care. Not nowadays anyway, maybe 10 yrs ago.

And you're wrong "one set" would mean 6 ALU "per set" Theres TWO integer units per module and every which is dual ported, have a 2 pairs of ALU+AGU but only one LSU. And having only one LSU is probably not bad if you saturate CPU without need for highly random sequential fetches into outer memory.

So this Integer unit is in fact reduced from K7/K8/K10 and now two ALU per INTcore share same responsibility where previously was three. Its no that bad that to one of those haven't been responsible for branching.

And while at the same time both complementary AGUs work with LSU on which has been attached poorly small 16kB L1D cache and 4kB SCC.

Well they didnt obviously separated LSU/AGU from INT/Count/Branch operations even in Bulldozer and yet still they reduce it from 3-ported INT unit to 2-ported INT unit and they hoped for the best.
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Since AMD hired Jim Keller that was not impressed about Steamroller, so it is not very strange if they choose to expose it. Keller is said to have made ??several design changes that are likely to boost the speed a lot.

Those who know who Jim Keller's remember what happened last time he was employed by AMD.
Intel is probably not particularly happy.

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According to our confidential sources, the roadmap cancellations were significantly AFFECTED by the departures of engineers in tender moments of project development. The roadmap shakeup positively or negatively AFFECTED the processors under code names such as the 'Kaveri', 'Kabini', 'Abu Dhabi', 'Seoul' etc.
However, projects such as Steam Roller (also known as the 3rd Gen Bulldozer, or K13) and Excavator core (4th Gen Bulldozer or K14) are well underway, and the new engineering leadership with people such as Jim Keller (our sources from AMD / Intel / NVIDIA claim he's arguably the best CPU architect of all times) and John Gustafson (author of Gustafson's Law Wed parallel computing) started two make changes within the first day of the employment.
Read more: http://vr-zone.com/a...l # ixzz2BNQ4d8FR
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oh.. vishera is a really good improvment towards the cost/performance ratio.. competes very well with i5s and even i7s, if you compare the fps in gamewith i7 to amd fx 8350, or 8320, thenyou will see that i7 DOES BEAT amd in fps.. but they are NOT ENOUGH GAIn.. the gain in fps isn;t worth the cost of i7s (not talking abt 6 cores i 7 because they kill amd but also cost x2 ) .. kind of interesting to see the next steam roller
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12:10 pm | AMD to Lower Prices of A-Series APUs for Back-to-School Season. New Prices of AMD A-Series APUs Revealed

Wednesday, August 20, 2014

10:53 am | AMD to Cut Prices on FX-9000, Other FX Processors: New Prices Revealed. AMD to Make FX Chips More Affordable, Discontinue Low-End Models

10:32 am | LG to Introduce World’s First Curved 21:9 Ultra-Wide Display. LG Brings Curved Displays to Gamers, Professionals

9:59 am | AMD Readies FX-8370, FX-8370E Microprocessors. AMD Preps Two New “Mainstream” FX Chips