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Microprocessor unit market share of Advanced Micro Devices dropped below 17% for the first time in several years as a result of PC market shrink, strong competition from Intel Corp.’s as well as weak product lineup in the third quarter of 2012, according to Mercury Research.

Unit shipments of x86 microprocessors, which are mostly sold by Intel and AMD, dropped by around 9% year-over-year in the third quarter of this year due to uncertain economic environment, shrink of the traditional PC market due to popularization of additional computing devices like smartphones and media tablets and some other reasons. Such a significant decline was the second worst quarter for that segment of the processor market since the first quarter of 2001, market tracker Mercury Research revealed on Tuesday.

Market share of Intel increased to 83.3% in Q3 2012, up from 80.6% in the same quarter a year before. Meanwhile, for the first time in several years the share of AMD’s microprocessors on the x86 market dropped to 16.1% from 18.8% in Q3 2011, reports IDG News Service. Market share of Via Technologies was 0.6%. 

It is noteworthy that notebook microprocessor shipments dropped by a mid-single digit percentage range for AMD and Intel, according to the research. At the same time, Intel’s gained on AMD mostly in desktops thanks to the roll-out of Intel Core i-series 3000-family “Ivy Bridge” microprocessors that started in April, 2012. At the time, AMD virtually had nothing to compete with against its arch-rival as it A-series “Llano” chips and FX-series “Bulldozer” central processing units were either slow or suffered from low supply of mainboards.

“AMD took more of the hit than Intel did. They both experienced declines. AMD was simply hit by what OEMs saw in the markets and hitting the brakes,” said Dean McCarron, the principal analyst at Mercury Research.

Tags: AMD, Intel, Via Technologies, x86


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5 14 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/07/12 12:32:39 AM]
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You are only partially correct. They do charge more than we would like, but this is not the reason they are shrinking. The reason is that today we are in a situation that a slow ARM cpu compared with an X86 processor combined with a light OS like Android compared with a heavy OS like Windows can do much of what we do on a traditional PC/laptop. That wasn't the case in the past.
8 2 [Posted by: john_gre  | Date: 11/07/12 05:20:33 AM]
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1 9 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/07/12 07:43:07 AM]
Not at all what he was saying. From what I read, he is saying that people have more options. For example, I browse the net and use email. Should I get a phone, tablet, transformer or laptop or desktop? I don't type much so... A lot of people go with the tablet trend because it meets their needs or cost or portability. Remember the netbook boom? The reasons for a netbook were cost or portability. The c-50 based netbook with the 720p screen I have is still going strong.
3 3 [Posted by: mokahless  | Date: 11/07/12 09:03:15 AM]
That's right Avon. AMD's APU does not yet have optimised software to bring out its potential and big selling point to consumers. I'm glad you understand that.

Quote: "Similarly, AMD feels that HSA may be its path to success in smartphones and tablets, because when applications are properly optimized for balance, the GPU becomes much more influential in determining battery life. HSA targets two things: ease of programming and performance per watt. Once GPGPU compute comes into play, analysis shows that the GPU is 4x to 6x more performance per watt efficient than a CPU",3262-11.html

As far as ARM replacing x86 - it depends on the market of users. I think computing is becoming "dumbed down" as it goes to the masses who are mainly interested in consuming social networking, listening to mp3s, watching videos, etc - all things that only require a computer circa 2006 or below. So sadly we live in a time when AMD's APUs and Intel's CPUs advance computing incredibly each year but the mass market doesn't need or want them.
5 2 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 02:18:09 AM]
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1 5 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 05:02:32 AM]
"Keep beating that dead horse" + "I don't understand what you are babbling about" are contradictory statements. You need to sip some more troll juice to wake up a bit more.
4 3 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 05:20:37 AM]
It's more that PC's aren't trendy. People spend their extra cash to buy the latest phone/tablet whether they need it or not - this is cash that in the past they might have spend buying a new laptop. The PC is now more like your fridge - you need one, but you don't bother replacing it till the last one breaks.
3 1 [Posted by: Dribble  | Date: 11/08/12 01:25:31 AM]
I think this is one of the lesser reasons, but valid nonetheless.
3 2 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 02:55:43 AM]
CPU prices are among the lowest they have ever been. What premium pricing? Even during Pentium 4/D and Athlon 64/X2, CPU prices were far more expensive but CPUs sold a lot better than they do today. Before that era, CPU prices were astronomical. Your argument that CPUs are too expensive today holds no water.

FX8320 = $169
FX8350 = $199
i5-3570K = $225

That's ridiculously cheap for the amount of power consumers get at $170-225. But do they need that much power? 90% of them do not.

Even Core i3/FX4350 are only $125 and are good enough for 90% of people.

The reason people are not buying as many CPUs is that CPUs last much longer now (for example if you bought a Core i7 920 in 2008, and all you do is basic/non-gaming things, there is still no reason to upgrade) and the majority of consumers would rather browse the internet, check emails, use facebook/twitter on their smartphones/tablets. It's the same reason the $60 videogame is dying -- casual gaming is the growth area on smartphones/tablets. The number of people who need high-end CPUs is extremely small compared to 90% of consumers for whom specs are meaningless.

Tablets and smartphones are slowly replacing traditional PCs. That's not to say laptops and desktops are not needed. They are but among the growing world's population, they continue to be less and less relevant in the grand scheme.

The added speed differences every new generation of CPUs makes little to no difference to the average consumer who just browses the web, checks e-mail, uses Word/Excel/Calendar and plays casual games online. For that reason desktops and laptops will only get less popular.

None of my colleagues or friends wants a new desktop PC (or laptop as they get them free at work). However, because it's fashionable, they all upgrade their smartphones every 2 years. The smartphone contract model has outsmarted PC makers. I actually expect Microsoft to use the "smartphone" business model for its next Xbox. $99-199 Xbox 720 with a 2 year Xbox Live commitment would sound a lot more attractive to the average consumer than a $499-599 console. Get ready for it, the smartphone business model is coming to consoles too!
7 5 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 11/07/12 09:35:58 AM]
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4 9 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/07/12 09:52:45 AM]
What fanboism? You stated CPU prices are too expensive but they are the lowest they have been in the history of CPUs.

Pentium 4 3.0ghz = $218
Pentium 4 3.2ghz = $278
Pentium 4 3.4ghz = $417
Pentium 4 EE = $999

The next period is even more expensive:

A64 X2 3800+ = $354
A64 X2 4200+ = $482
A64 X2 4400+ = $537
A64 X2 4600+ = $704
A64 X2 4800+ = $902

Core 2 Duo/Quad era is not cheaper than today:
E6300 = $183
E6400 = $224
E6600 = $316
E6700 = $530
X6800 = $999

Stop making up facts that CPUs are expensive today. Relative to historical prices, especially if taking inflation into account, CPUs have never been cheaper.

Every professional analyst/industry observer is talking about the decline of the PC market and the growth of the smartphone and tablet markets. Consumer trends cannot be denied in light of factual data. Most people just don't need a lot of CPU processing power today and/or they'd rather use devices on the go, not at a desk. All these contribute to the stagnation and recent sales drop of traditional PCs. Not everyone is a PC gamer either.

Most consumers are perfectly happy with Core 2 Duo / Core i3 CPUs and have no reason to upgrade to the latest and greatest to browse the web, play casual games. In one of Anandtech's podcast, Intel stated that the current upgrade cycle for CPUs is now 5 years. Again, what I said is true - majority of consumers on Core i3/i5/i7s from 2008 still aren't upgrading.

The only reason I keep getting Intel's latest CPUs is because I am a gamer. If I wasn't playing PC games, I'd probably upgrade every 5-10 years. I get a free laptop from work every 2 years. There are a lot of professionals in the finance, architecture, engineering, and general business world who get laptops at work. For them, desktops have little to no value and some of them don't need a laptop either as they can perform basics of every day lives on smartphones/tablets now.

Keep living in denial that traditional PCs are not entering the stage of decline. I am not even defending AMD in my post and yet you called me an AMD fanboy. You are clearly in denial here as you continue to believe in fantasies how the average consumer needs Core i7 3970X for $1000 and GTX690 SLI.

The current business model for PCs is outdated. Consumers can't easily upgrade their PC with a $200 processor swap every 2 years but they can get a new smartphone for $200 on a new contract. How many of those consumers want a new $1,000 laptop every 2 years? Not in this global economy. The smartphone model is going to enter the console space because it has proven to be more successful in recent years.

You can deny it until you are best friends with Donald Trump.

"The consumerization trend has hit IT as an unstoppable force," Gartner said in a statement. In all, smartphones and tablets combined make up 70% of all devices sold in 2012. The total is expected to reach 821 million by the end of the year.

The desktop PC is slowly becoming irrelevant outside of gamers, professionals and workstation users.
6 5 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 11/07/12 10:27:25 AM]
I really wish people would stop using gaming as a justification for cpu upgrades. On the whole I agree with your observations; but, cpus when paired with a high end discrete card have not affected gaming performance for years.

I have an i7 920 OC'ed to 3.4 and my friend just purchased a 3570k. We both have a single AMD 6970. Our frame rates in Guild Wars, Diablo3, and Battlefield 3 were both either equal to or above 60 with graphics settings matched at high settings. This means there was no observable difference in gameplay between our two systems.

Did his brand new cpu consume a lot less power than mine? Definitely. Did it perform noticeably better in gaming. Nope. I feel like this is the only surviving misconception we have left in the enthusiast community. Sure there are usage scenarios that justify Intel's latest and greatest; but, as you already correctly pointed out 90% of users don't utilize it and thats just as true for gamers.
7 2 [Posted by: crypticsaga  | Date: 11/07/12 03:03:40 PM]
I agree with you. I should have clarified it more. My point was that your friend who is a gamer did go out and buy a powerful quad-core newest Intel chip. If he wasn't a gamer, he would get by with a Pentium or even a Core i3. For every enthusiast such as your friend, there are 5-10 consumers who want to have the latest mobile device on the go.

Remember how watches were popular back in the days? Now if you have an outdated smartphone, it almost carries a negative stigma in the developed world. I don't want to sound shallow but many people can afford an iPhone or an Android phone and it makes them feel like they are "keeping up". I believe there is definitely some peer-pressure to keep upgrading your cell phones to keep up.

At the same time, as I said before people use their devices on the go. A lot more people can easily afford a $199 cell phone every 2 years and a $199-499 tablet than to go out and buy a new laptop every 2 years.

How about this: Imagine a smartphone that's so powerful that you can carry it with you and then bring it to work / home and plug it into a dock and it powers 6 monitors in Surround and can play games? Eventually this will happen I bet in our lifetime.

Mobile devices are bound to become so fast in the next 15-20 years that they will sufficiently meet the needs of average computing.
2 4 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 11/08/12 11:51:18 AM]
The price of my processor that I bought last month is about the same price compared to processors that I bought in the past while performance has increased. I normally upgrade when performance of the new processor is two times of my present processor. The amount of time I wait for a processor upgrade has been consistent at around 5 years since 2002. I bought my K7 in 2000 and upgrade to Pentium 4 in 2002. Right now, I do not think I need a processor that performs better. I have an i3-3225 and I have Hyperthreading enabled that is running Linux. Flash, 1080p video, video capturing barely overwhelms it. When 2017 comes up, I may or may not upgrade the processor because the upgrade depends on if the tasks that I am doing overwhelms the processor in that time.

If I was a gamer, I would have a secondary computer with a better setup. Also if I am doing 3D rendering, image editing, video editing, and have a business where time is money, yes I will be getting a better setup. If I do not have business and I want to do 3D rendering, image editing, and video editing, I can do them with an i3-3225, but I will have to wait for it to process those tasks.

Using the model that is for smartphones and then use it for desktops or notebooks will not work. People want upgradability. This is seen first hand with Apple fixalating their Macbooks and not iMacs, so upgrades are only done by Apple technicians. These people complain that they have to set memory upgrades to the highest when buying a Macbook and iMacs. The cost of upgrading later is expensive because Apple's technicians have to take the motherboard out for a memory upgrade. This is a light weight version. A smartphone business model with contracts for a desktops and notebooks is probably the worst idea because there will be no ownership. You do not own your desktop or notebook with that model. Cellular carriers owns your smartphone when you are under a contract deal. The cost of the smartphone may seem cheaper under a contract, but you are actually paying for the smartphone and the cellular service over time for two years. If you bought a smartphone with no contract, it may seem more expensive. This method is not more expensive because the plan is cheaper per month and you have the ability to cancel. The best of buying the smartphone is you own it.

A good model for desktops and notebooks is a trade-in. This assumes that you are buying from a computer manufacture and paid a service that qualifies for a trade-in. From what I read Apple does this with products that are signed up for Apple Care. People said it works. You can upgrade and install add-on cards. This model does not work for people that build their own desktops.
0 2 [Posted by: tecknurd  | Date: 11/08/12 11:45:05 AM]
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2 7 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/07/12 10:26:42 AM]
Apparently you didn't get the memo. The smartphone business model means you sell the hardware at a cheaper price (subsidized hardware), but you make up the revenue via a subscription the consumers enter over the course of the contract. Microsoft is already testing this model before they implement it on a larger scale with Xbox 720. They already launched $99 Xbox with a 2 year subscription and are expanding it to BestBuy, Target, Walmart, etc.

Microsoft: Smartphone-style contracts will be the Xbox 720?s bread and butter

The world is slowly moving towards cloud computing. After next generation of consoles, it's not inconceivable that in 2020-2025, consoles will shift even closer towards a subscription-based gaming model like Netflix/Amazon Video. You'll just be paying a monthly fee to play games or purchase games online and games would be streamed from supercomputers.

As more of the world moves towards the Cloud computing model, smartphones/tablets will gain in popularity while desktops and even laptops will only continue to lose their importance outside of niche areas like students, professionals and gamers.

In 5-10 years time, even the crappy ARM CPUs will be good enough for most people and in 15 years time, the reason to upgrade CPUs for the average consumer will probably cease to exist outside of niche sectors, or unless software evolves dramatically.

Every 2-3 years, smartphone users will upgrade like clock-work. When their laptop/desktop becomes 2-3 years old, most of them don't think about upgrading it.
5 4 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 11/07/12 10:35:32 AM]
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3 7 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/07/12 10:42:54 AM]
I am not saying it's happening tomorrow. The trends are clear.

1) Smartphone business model has worked better to entice consumers to upgrade frequently than traditional PC business model. This is why MS could launch Xbox 720 both as a stand-alone and as a complimentary subscription model.

2) Consumers are gravitating towards smartphones and tablets, not laptops and PCs.

I love how you keep denying facts right in the article:

"Unit shipments of x86 microprocessors, which are mostly sold by Intel and AMD, dropped by around 9% year-over-year in the third quarter of this year due to uncertain economic environment, shrink of the traditional PC market due to popularization of additional computing devices like smartphones and media tablets and some other reasons. Such a significant decline was the second worst quarter for that segment of the processor market since the first quarter of 2001, market tracker Mercury Research revealed on Tuesday."

Since it's very difficult to imagine how PC makers can adopt to the smartphone business model, the next approach is to find new growth opportunities outside of traditional laptops/desktops.

The state of the market means AMD will continue to lose market share and lose sales unless they design CPUs for smartphones/tablets or enter some new areas such as micro-servers. All this is again common sense to everyone except AVON who expects a company 75x smaller to make $1,000 consumer CPUs for his Crysis 3 gaming needs. Oh, and if anyone who follows the industry disagrees wtih Avon's opinion, despite facts that disprove his opinion, he calls them AMD fanboys automatically.

You should go back to Fudzilla, OBR, Semi-Accurate and other troll websites where you belong.
5 5 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 11/07/12 11:29:27 AM]
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4 7 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/07/12 11:42:37 AM]
Avon, in many Western and Asian countries they are building or have built high speed broadband networks, for example in Britain and Australia.

The street next to mine receives 1 Gb/s connection via fibre optic cable. I'll be connected up in the next year, courtesy of the government. This gaming technology works and will become more feasible in the near future when these networks are completed.
4 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 01:17:23 AM]
I dont care about your country you fricken kangourou. LoL
3 4 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 04:54:59 AM]
You don't care about countries full-stop. You're a militia man. Go eat some more baked beans with wild kangaroo in your bunker and swallow it down with some troll juice.

You can also digest this: ome-Australian.html

Quote:"In the interview with the Financial Review, Wozniak said the national broadband network was one of the reasons he wants to become an Australian citizen.

Australia's ambitious Aus$35.9 billion ($37.4 billion) National Broadband Network (NBN) aims to connect all Australians to superfast Internet by 2021 in a move the government hopes will transform the country's economy.

Wozniak said his home in California was not connected to a broadband service and there was no "political idea" to bring it to everyone in the United States."

Unfortunately America's domestic situation is reflecting less and less what is happening in the rest of world, even in a country full of kangaroos.

PS: J'ai note que vous avez ecrit Kangaroo a la francaise.
3 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 06:45:14 AM]
I can tell by his face why he wants to be an autralian citizen. LoL
He looks exactly like them. LoL
3 3 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 07:31:34 AM]
Is your mom gonna pick you up from Kindergarten today? Or will she make you walk back home for trolling on Xbit?
3 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 08:02:47 AM]
You are so ignorant towards the rest of the world. You sound like a Republican American from the deep south.

Michael Patcher is even speculating that MS will team up with a cable provider to subsidize the cost of the Xbox for $99 (as I have earlier point out to you as a real possibility):


Please make a video of yourself furious when all 3 next generation consoles will have AMD GPUs in them. This is going to be you when you buy your Xbox 720 and find out it has an AMD graphics chip:
3 3 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 11/08/12 11:56:12 AM]
I am not into stupid consoles anyway, don't worry about that. I never owned a console and i don't intend to.
3 2 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 12:27:27 PM]
Off Topic: I'm really fond of Americans. My country owes them a debt for helping in the Pacific during the WWII. Our cultures are closer these days. Young people even speak with an American twang. The Americans who travel to my country are invariably worldly and well educated and they get the red carpet treatment. But at the same time there is also a small undercurrent of anti-Americanism. This is due to half their population’s fundamentalist Christian and extreme right-wing political beliefs, engendered in their Republican party and their subsequent hegemony across the globe to secure American superiority and wealth at the cost of world peace and to that end distributing resources equitably to other humans beings. Their global leadership as the world superpower at this critical time of impending environmental catastrophe is dismal. With America's political system failing due to Republicans chopping off their noses despite their faces, I'm not positive about the world moving forward in the short to medium term. Unless there is some outside shock to jolt paradigms.

I don't think Avon's an American. My guess is that he's from Canada. Either way, he is a member of the cult of Intel and a lowly ranked troll henchman.
2 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 10:35:58 PM]
I really wish people would stop using gaming as a justification for cpu upgrades. On the whole I agree with your observations; but, cpus when paired with a high end discrete card have not affected gaming performance for years.

I have an i7 920 OC'ed to 3.4 and my friend just purchased a 3570k. We both have a single AMD 6970. Our frame rates in Guild Wars, Diablo3, and Battlefield 3 were both either equal to or above 60 with graphics settings matched at high settings. This means there was no observable difference in gameplay between our two systems.

Did his brand new cpu consume a lot less power than mine? Definitely. Did it perform noticeably better in gaming. Nope. I feel like this is the only surviving misconception we have left in the enthusiast community. Sure there are usage scenarios that justify Intel's latest and greatest; but, as you already correctly pointed out 90% of users don't utilize it and thats just as true for gamers.
4 5 [Posted by: crypticsaga  | Date: 11/07/12 03:04:19 PM]
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2 5 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 01:13:27 AM]
Consoles have always been a closed environment. My point is that videogames have now surpassed Hollywood as money makers. As a medium of entertainment, it's not unrealistic to think of games as Netflix or Amazon Video. To make consoles even more mainstream and affordable, the console markets are likely to entice consumers to purchase PS4/Xbox 720 by making the hardware seem cheaper. The most effective way of doing that is to implement a subsidized smartphone-based subscription model.

It's no different than the Printer model. You sell the hardware cheap, but make up the revenue/profits via additional sales of ink. Think of games as ink, think of the console hardware as the printer. Same model is used with Gillette razors, etc.

This is why a console is moving more and more towards being a media consumption device that happens to play games as well. It's not longer purchased primarily for games.

Once technology evolves, the various entertainment media the console provides such as games, movies, music, social media could all be provided from the Cloud and you'll just pay a subscription service and not even need the box (just the controllers). In the future, it would be possible as the Internet infrastructure improves and technology gets advanced enough to stream 1080P 3D games.
2 4 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 11/08/12 04:22:03 PM]
All this sh*t you are talking about was implemented by microsoft with their new windows 8 crap. <-- Its the building block of all that nonsense you are saying. Everything will be via charge through microsofts OS. Next thing they might do is to have total control of the Internet, no more free stuff.
We will talk again in 1-2 years, everybody is going to wish to have their traditional PC's back and they would be swearing at Microsoft and it will be ugly.
Just remember what i said.
3 2 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 06:18:18 PM]
What utter nonsense Avon. Go back to your bunker and spend your life waiting for the end of the world.
2 3 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 11:40:43 PM]
Off Topic: The economy is collapsing you fool. Neither Intel or AMD or Microsh*t or tablets or smartphones will help your silly @$$.
Its a controlled collapse and get ready to be a slave and to follow orders because you will have those often.
I like the off-topic thingy that you posted as if you were ever on topic. LoL
3 2 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/09/12 01:44:44 AM]
Me and my family's arses are just fine thank you. This is because my country's economy and that of its neighbours are healthy and no where near collapsing. My country's growth is 3% with 5.4% unemployment. But The West is a different matter. Asia rises and is unstoppable as the wealth flows out of America and Europe to this region and as the politicians fumble with handling their domestic political impasses and international trading impediments applied from a recalcitrant China. Btw, you were the one who started this off topic. Now retire to your bunker with a pint of troll juice.
2 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/09/12 03:27:09 AM]
When the big major banks in control goes offline you can later repeat the same thing you just said about your country's economy.
And you might think your country's economy will stay unaffected? LoL
3 1 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/09/12 04:04:12 AM]
Lenovo logs weakest quarterly profit growth in more than 2 years

-- Lenovo Group Ltd, on track to become the world's top PC maker, clocked its weakest quarterly profit growth in more than two years as customers increasingly switched to mobile gadgets from PCs for their computing needs.
4 5 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 11/07/12 10:28:25 PM]
@Avon - I disagree. Hardware prices are not any higher than they have been. iOS and Android OS have cemented "just good enough computing" for a generation that is mainly interested in using a computer to be "socially connected". The attraction in ARM devices is their portability meaning the social connectedness is everywhere and all the time. Until desktops grow legs and can follow you, their market will continue to decline as the great unwashed adopt mobile devices for their simple computing needs.
4 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 12:57:20 AM]

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1 5 [Posted by: idonotknow  | Date: 11/07/12 10:07:59 AM]

AMD is not honest that is why?
Bad old fashion managers.
They all wants to dominate the market not making better products.
steve jobs was the one who wanted to make better product not only making money. We will see apple without steve jobs in 5 years time...they will go down. They never learn.

4 3 [Posted by: JanGozi  | Date: 11/07/12 01:54:12 PM]
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3 6 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/07/12 03:01:32 PM]

Its a crap economy and its going to get much much worse in the next year or two.
6 0 [Posted by: beck2448  | Date: 11/07/12 10:51:20 PM]
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It will get worst until we wake up and turn against the governments and their stupid political systems that control us. Its just a piece of f*c*i* paper people, wake up.
3 5 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 12:21:41 AM]
That's the type of rubbish you hear from certain militia types. You need government not anarchy.
5 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 12:47:29 AM]
Making wars and killing for money is not anarchy?
By the way anarchy is comming sooner than you think it would.
You better prepare yourself because it will be a jungle out there soon.
3 5 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 01:45:55 AM]
Which brand of baked beans do you recommend?
4 3 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 02:46:10 AM]
I recommend soybeans up your arse.
3 4 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 04:06:03 AM]
That would be a personal recommendation, of course. Thank you but I won't try that.
4 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 05:25:14 AM]
It's worse, not worst. The Republicant has spoken! Looks like your southern education system has failed you. He is moving to Canada because USA is turning socialist....oh wait.

AvON, you should stimulate the economy and buy 10 desktops with Core i7-3960X and GTX690 SLI rigs, and then devote them to Folding@Home.
3 3 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 11/08/12 04:24:41 PM]

Buy stocks ,next year AMD will only see growth.
3 5 [Posted by: HeadlessBottleneck  | Date: 11/08/12 05:19:36 AM]
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Not true. Growth will not be seen until the world economy picks up. That is not going to be next year. It may take 5 years at worse case scenario. If you buy AMD shares now, you expect to ride out the recession with no immediate or short term growth. There are better investments if you understand other markets.
4 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 05:28:42 AM]
In AMD's case that means never.
3 3 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 05:30:30 AM]
Here we go again recommending to buy AMD stocks.
No thanks ill pass, i don't want to be broke.
Why don't you sell your house and car and buy AMD stocks if you are so sure about it?
3 3 [Posted by: AvONbaCK  | Date: 11/08/12 05:29:46 AM]
I wouldn't be buying Intel stocks either. They'll head south of $20 in the next few months. The 4% dividend is keeping the price afloat at the moment. But it won't last long.
3 5 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 11/08/12 07:45:41 AM]


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