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A source within the industry said that the PlayStation 3 hardware might not be finalized as of early May, as at least some game developers who showcased their Sony PlayStation 3 (PS3) titles during the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) exhibition used typical personal computers (PCs) to do it.

According to the information provided by sources familiar with the matter, game developers used high-performance PCs to showcase what the PlayStation 3 game consoles will be able to deliver to gamers. At least some of the game developers masked personal computers inside the showcase stands and put a PS3 case so that attendees would believe that they see the real working game consoles and the real games. However, no attendees could actually touch the consoles, or to play the PlayStation 3 games during the exhibition.

The game developers who did not run their demos on the pre-release Sony PlayStation 3 hardware, used high-performance personal computers, such as those featuring high-speed Nvidia GeForce 7900 graphics cards in SLI mode or even ATI’s Radeon X1900 in CrossFire mode. While neither ATI, nor Nvidia would confirm such information, the sources claimed that at least some game developers used PC hardware to demonstrate the PS3 demos.

Given that nowadays game developers usually create games for multiple platforms, including PCs and game consoles from Microsoft and Sony, technically software makers may demonstrate their products using different hardware. Programmers – including John Carmack of id Software – said in the past that creating games for the PS3 would not be a trivial task. Knowing that and keeping in mind that game console builders finalize specifications of their machines till the last minute before release, demonstrations of certain technically advanced demos using PC hardware may seem logical.

Back in May 2005 Microsoft used similar trick with the Xbox 360 which was set to be launched in November, 2005. During the E3 show the software giant used Apple PowerMac G5 systems featuring IBM PowerPC processors to run the games for the Xbox 360.

Sony PlayStation 3 console is based on the Cell processor developed by IBM, Sony and Toshiba, the RSX graphics chip by Nvidia Corp. and will be equipped with Blu-ray optical disk drive. According to Merrill Lynch research company, the most expensive component of the PlayStation 3 will be its Blu-ray disk drive, which will initially cost $350. The second most expensive part of the gaming machine will be the Cell processor which will cost Sony “at least” $230 per unit to make. Nvidia’s RSX graphics processor will cost $70, while for 256MB of XDR memory as well as 256MB of GDDR3 memory Sony will have to pay $50, believes Merrily Lynch. In total, the price may reach $900 just to manufacture one PlayStation 3 console. The PS3 game consoles will cost $499 or $599 depending on the system configuration.

Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. did not comment on the news-story.

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0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 06/06/06 03:39:56 PM]
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Only non experienced user/developer will think such a rubbish K8L will outcast PS3. At least, the software of PC platform was never full optimized for any single hardware, which means that a lot of feature and performance on your hardware is wasted. THink about how long it took for major games started to implementing T&L after original GeForce was launched in year 1999! Think about why, with similar polygon setup throughput, a GeForce GTS can never fire up any game with quality similar to PS2 GT4!

You guys should taken in mind that the same Cell chip used in PS3 is used by IBM to build MILITRARY SUPER COMPUTER, which will blow away any computer using X86 achitecture. User like Gutts is too simple and naive to think a Cell chip will works like a Casio calulator when comparing with x86. He should take more look on how professional engineering/computing system implementing the XDR and Cell technology that used in PS3! Given in mind that, 3 years ago, for each clock cycle, the Emotional Engine can do 3 times more floating thoughput than any Intel or AMD. A Cell clocked at 3.2GHz with 8 SPE must blow away all exsiting x86 CPUs.

Actually, on budget demanding servers will use AMD Opertron/Intel Xeon processor. They are the real calulator when comparing with IBM SuperComputer! Think about why IBM throw away such a simple and naive PC business and concerntrate on super computer business only!

The miracle inside a Cell chip is such 8 SPEs (7 in PS3's case) can be allocated and optimized to do specific task at any time. Sony had also licensed PhyX SDK for Cell chip, which means that all SPEs can be allocated to serve as PPU for PS3 when requested, which wil blow away any oldie PCI based single PPU implementation in PC.
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 06/07/06 07:34:16 AM]
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Your facts are all wrong ... Emotion Engine? Lol ... what a load of market BS that was... and PS2 fanboys ate it up.
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 06/07/06 12:45:53 PM]
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LLAME: PS3 is gonna be outdated the day it will launch. Its over priced and PC's have already caught up to it.

In Q1 2007, we will have quad core AMD K8L, latest DX 10 cards in SLI, PPU and more. Ps3 will look like a freaking Casio Calculator watch compared to PC's.

If nVidia or ATI plan to release a GPU that uses AMD's co-processor tech .. its game over of PS3.
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I heard that PS3 have problem with cell chip
Read at Inquirer website but if true sony will lose over Xbox

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32171
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That inq story is bs. Or yes values are right, but doesnt matter a thing. That dia shows that its pretty slow to read/write with Cell on GDDR3. And it shouldnt be so important feature to calculate some gfx stuff with cell. Perhaps its possible, but it is slow. And that tri performance doesnt really tell you how fast ps3 can in real world run some games. And how this value have been calculated, would be nice to know. So those infos really doesnt tell use nothing.

Perhaps its possible, that in E3 they runned some games on PC. Would be just bit odd, cuz devs have theirs devkits also. And why in hell they would use ATI's crossfire cards. They are making those games with OGL (OGLES/PSGL) and using NV extensions and features to render the game. So why they would use ati's cards? That just doesnt make any sense.
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Man, GDD3 is directly linked to the nvidia RSX part in PS3; while Cell, in practise, talks with the Rambus XDR memory most in actual application.

That's no difference from you guys blaming how AMD/P4 accessing slowly to the GDD3 memory inside a GF7900GTX. What a totally pointness sue!
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 06/11/06 03:48:23 AM]
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Well yes I didnt meant that Cell doesnt use XDR or something else. It just a possibility to use GDDR3 with Cell, but it is slow. Like Sony's Devstations dias tells us.
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