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Microsoft Corp. plans to release its next-generation Xbox video-game console sometimes in 2013, according to a report that cites industrial sources among game and tool developers. It is highly likely that Microsoft will remain tight-lipped about the console which may carry Xbox 720 name for a long time and is projected to reveal it in mid-2013, months ahead of the release.

Multiple sources across the industry, from processor chip manufacturers to middleware firms, have told Develop web-site they expect the console to be fully unveiled at E3 2013, months before its release. Typically, video game console designers roll-out new consoles during holiday season, so the U.S. should expect Xbox Next to be available by December, 2013. Still, even Microsoft itself most probably has not yet set its launch plans for its future console.

This spring rumours transpired that the successor to the Xbox 360 console is currently evaluated by an unnamed game design studio that belongs to Electronic Arts. EA reportedly received the systems back in April. At present, it is said, the hardware is installed inside typical computer cases.

In summer Microsoft's official Xbox magazine (OXM) published an article about hypothetical next-generation Xbox 360. Among other industrial experts, Neal Robison, the head of software developers relations at AMD, said that he would expect the future Xbox games to have Avatar-like graphics, that it would also continue using physical optical medium and will not be OnLive-like.

Although Microsoft officially wants its Xbox 360 to have a ten-years lifecycle, it is more than likely that the next Xbox will become available earlier than in 2015. As a result, it is more than possible that at this point of time Microsoft has already determined the concept of the system (e.g., CPU and GPU technologies), but naturally had not implemented anything in hardware. Theoretically, Microsoft might have started to ship its conceptual system to partners to learn their opinion about the model.

Sony Computer Entertainment, which released its latest PlayStation 3 (2006) video game system a year later than Microsoft launched its Xbox 360 (2005), confirmed earlier this year that it had begun to develop the next-generation PlayStation 4.

Microsoft did not comment on the news-story.

Tags: Microsoft, Xbox, Xbox Next

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As much as we all want our investments in the 360 and PS3 to last, it's time to move on. When the 360 was released, barely anyone had a 1080p TV, and most were still using analog RCA connections, hense it didn't even support HDMI except through a costly adaptor. The 360 has gone through a ton of revisions. We need a new system, that IF NOTHING ELSE, can play games in 1080p @ 60fps with the same graphics options we can get on a midrange PC, and still use Kinect. In fact, Kinect would definately benefit from a faster CPU and some more complex games.

I think it's safe to say if Microsoft designs a new console that's compatible with their Kinect and backward compatible with their 360 games, but has much improved graphics, at a reasonable price, that it would sell quite well.
0 2 [Posted by: Astral Abyss  | Date: 10/21/11 09:58:59 AM]
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Um the PS3 can play games in 1080p.
2 3 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/21/11 01:14:26 PM]
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Most PS3 and Xbox360 games do not actually run in native 1080P with 4AA:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

Also, none of the modern graphical features such as Tessellation, Parallax Occlusion Mapping, Shaped based Depth of Field, etc. are present due to lack of DX11 support by current consoles.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...mbedded&v=hZgt4hA4-pc

512mb of video ram also creates limitations for higher quality textures and limited draw distance.
1 3 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 10/21/11 06:48:32 PM]
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4/AA has nothing to do with running a game in 1080p You don't need 4/AA hardware to run 1080p.
2 1 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/21/11 08:47:28 PM]
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My point was current consoles are obsolete. So your argument that PS3 can already play games at 1080P is false. It can't play modern games at 1080P, nevermind with DX11 effects, nevermind with 4AA. Also, Anti-aliasing does matter. That's why a ton of games look horrible on PS3 because of jaggies. So in terms of image quality, it's about time that we saw much better graphics and framerates.

I never understand why people are against next generation of consoles. PS3 and Xbox360 will continue to have games developed for them. Those consoles will still be sold alongside the newer console. At least Sony won't just dump PS3. But a lot of people are willing to spend $500+ on a new console rather than buy a $200-250 console with 5-6 year old hardware! People who don't feel like upgrading can wait 2-3 years and pick those new consoles then.
1 3 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 10/21/11 10:48:02 PM]
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Um how is it false when they can run 1080p resolutions right now with out 4/AA! You don't need 4/AA to run 1080p games, that's fact. What you are talking about is additional effects inregards to hardware acceleration with games, but that has nothing to do with running a game in 1080p resolution itself.
2 2 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/21/11 10:56:33 PM]
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Can PS3 run Battlefield 3 @ 1080P at 60 fps? No.
Can PS3 run Crysis 2 @ 1080P at 60 fps? No.
Can PS3 run Metro 2033 @ 1080P at 60 fps? No.
Will PS3 run SKYRIM @ 1080P at 60f ps? No.
Can PS3 run any modern game at 1080P at 60 fps? No.
Will PS3 run any 2012 games at 1080P at 60 fps with good graphics? No.

And on top of that, it runs those games without AA, with horrible textures, no DX11 effects, outdated graphics all around. But be my guest if you are happy with your 2006 console. Some of us look forward to innovation.

It's funny, I've been a console owner since 7 years old and I wish for nothing more than new consoles. I hate when consoles stick around for more than 5 years since it starts to impede progress. PS3 and 360 are long overdue to EOL.
0 0 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 10/22/11 03:08:45 PM]
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Ok you're just being stupid now 1080p has nothing to do with AA. I already explained this to you and the 60fps you don't need to run a game smoothly on. you can run those games at 40fps and be fine. not to mention what resolution are you talking about here on a 32 inch screen on a 65 inch screen what. obv the higher the resolution the mroe strian it puts on a graphics card but that has nothign to do with 1080p.
0 0 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/24/11 11:05:25 AM]
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You are clueless, just stop talking. The resolution is 1080P. A large screen simply has to stretch the 2 million pixels more so than a smaller screen. NONE of the current consoles can do 1080P. They are all running sub 720P resolutions to maintain frame rates. Educate yourself moron.

Also, resolution helps to minimize the appearance of jaggies by making them smaller on the screen. The higher the res, the less noticeable. However, AA is a technique that will be needed long into the future because there is no known resolution that actually removes them beyond what the normal eye can see. Thus, AA levels are very important. The current consoles struggle to implement AA due to performance loss.

Seriously, educate yourself you fucking baboon dipshit.
0 1 [Posted by: Bettercheckyourselffoo  | Date: 10/24/11 12:15:34 PM]
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if the PS3 can't do 1080p then why is it you can run blu ray movies on 1080p Seirously talk about clueless.

BS games can scale up to 1080p on both the Xbox 360 and PS3. so what in the hell are you talking about...

Ok and here we go again you don't need AA to run 1080p. that's a fact. You are talking once again graphic acceleration hardware interms of something completely diff then resolution.
0 0 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/24/11 01:38:27 PM]
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Only a few do, th bulk majority do sub-par (below) 720P. Blue-Ray is not rendering the movie using the PS3 graphics card. It's simply playing pre-rendered content at a set resolution.

Yes, the current consoles are capable of 1080P, but none of them ever get there because it hurts performance too much. NONE of the blockbuster titles have had 1080P because they push graphical fidelity so much, and the systems simply cannot run at 1080P without massive frame-rate issues.

The next wave of consoles will do 1080P at 60 FPS (give or take) because that's where PC hardware is.

You sound like a retard too. You sound fucking clueless. Educate yourself before you educate others.
0 0 [Posted by: Bettercheckyourselffoo  | Date: 10/24/11 02:11:34 PM]
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I'm clueless but yet your dumbass fucking retarded remarks are just that. I find it funny how you say i should edjucate myself when you can't even understand the fact that you don't need 4/AA to run 1080p. Here is you well it would help because games are jaggy in that high resolution completely negating the fact that it has nothing to do with 1080p but instead the graphics hardware rendering the game itself. I mean seirously. I know you can't be that stupid. You go off on some wild tagnet that has nothign to do with the resolution of the picture but instead has everything to do with graphic accelerated hardware which are two completely diff things. Your argument is so ignorant on this subject it shows how weak it is when you have to spin it off into something else that has nothing to do with 1080p resolution.
0 0 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/24/11 03:17:59 PM]
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Bahaha, am I talking to someone who is mentally challenged? Graphics acceleration and resolution go hand in hand in gaming. This is especially the case with that old hardware. Please, just shut the fuck up. New consoles are 100% needed.
0 0 [Posted by: Bettercheckyourselffoo  | Date: 10/25/11 04:38:32 PM]
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@SteelCity1981, XBOX360 can't play 1080p with VSync, and playing without sucks. It's even more important than AA.
2 2 [Posted by: Patrick  | Date: 10/22/11 12:55:48 AM]
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yeah but it doesn't negate the fact in my intial statement that what the other OP was talking about in which both systems can't when they can.
1 2 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/22/11 01:04:45 AM]
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You are not making any sense. Dice had to reduce BF3 to just 30 fps on Xbox360 and PS3. On top of that, PS3 versions looks like garbage compared even to the Xbox360 version, to say nothing about the PC version:

http://kotaku.com/5845181...station-3-xbox-360-and-pc

PS3 cannot run a single modern game at 1080P with good graphics. Sure it can run something like Portal 2, a game that's still using Half Life 2 engine from 7 years ago, and arguably looks worse than Portal 1 in places.
0 0 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 10/22/11 03:12:23 PM]
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Again what in the hell does that have anything to do with 1080p? Nothing you are talking about graphics in terms of hardware acceleration. This is how dumb your agrument is that you fail to neglect that fact that 1080p and AA ARE 2 DIFF THINGS!
0 0 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/24/11 11:07:04 AM]
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They can, but only if the games reduce graphical quality. That's the issue. When the newest games are trying to increase graphical quality, the trade off is going to come in with lower frame rates and lower resolutions.

You are fucking retarded, bro.
0 0 [Posted by: Bettercheckyourselffoo  | Date: 10/24/11 12:17:19 PM]
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First you say that they can only run at 720p. Wrong now you say they can run at 1080p. Talk about a retard that doesn't have a clue and contradicts himself in what he is talking about.
0 0 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/24/11 01:40:38 PM]
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Like I said, they are capable, but 90% of the games run at sub-720P resolutions. What's possible and what actually happens are different. The current consoles can't handle the performance hit when running at 1080P. That's a fact. Educate yourself moron.
0 0 [Posted by: Bettercheckyourselffoo  | Date: 10/24/11 02:13:18 PM]
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You're a complete idiot, it has nothing to do with the resolution but graphics accelerated hardware. To make that assumption that games look like crap is pure idiotic when it has nothing to do with it i can name many games that run on 1080p that look great.

Gran Turismo 5
Bioshock
Call of Duty: World at War
Killzone 2
Metal Gear Solid 4
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground
EA NBA series
2k Sprots NBA series
2k NHL series

there goes your oh they look like crap out the window. Talk to me when you actually have a degree in graphics hardware in which you clearly don't just based on your ignorant rants.
0 0 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/24/11 03:24:49 PM]
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LOL, what a fucking moron. This guy is the typical dipshit console gamer who doesn't know fuckall about anything. His posts reek of sub 90 IQ level remarks, and his penis is probably less than 2 centimeters long. What a fucking retard. The modern consoles don't do 1080P because it requires a performance hit. Resolution affects performance moron. Now, go educate yourself dipshit.
0 0 [Posted by: Bettercheckyourselffoo  | Date: 10/25/11 04:35:57 PM]
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Internet argument! Hooray!
0 0 [Posted by: jihadjoe  | Date: 10/23/11 02:29:25 AM]
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You know when penis size gets drug into the argument that its serious stuff. I agree that the consoles are aged and it is definitely time to move on. Who wants to drop 250-300 dollars on a console when theres a new one over the horizon. On a side note, I am currently on my 3rd Xbox. All I can say is the next genereation Microsoft platform needs to be more like the PS3 in regards to trouble free use, i.e. no RROD or eating of discs.
0 0 [Posted by: Sadistic11B  | Date: 11/09/11 08:33:53 PM]
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You know when penis size gets drug into the argument that its serious stuff. I agree that the consoles are aged and it is definitely time to move on. Who wants to drop 250-300 dollars on a console when theres a new one over the horizon. On a side note, I am currently on my 3rd Xbox. All I can say is the next genereation Microsoft platform needs to be more like the PS3 in regards to trouble free use, i.e. no RROD or eating of discs.
0 0 [Posted by: Sadistic11B  | Date: 11/09/11 09:40:14 PM]
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just saying your all stupid for arguing about consolol not only are they low graphics they also cant hold a stable framerate at 1080p, just saying go out drop 800$ on a PC and you'll be way more happy than if you go out and buy and xbox that you have to replace in 4 months, or PS3 that has network issues and is hacked every-other bloody day
0 0 [Posted by: dannyfallen  | Date: 03/09/12 09:28:05 AM]
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A next generation console is definitely looked forward to as PC gamers have enjoyed cutting edge technology at higher than 1080P resolution without problems with a well built rig. Even sub-par gaming rigs can push 1080P at 60FPS with medium to high quality graphics not to mention the implementation of the new DX 11 standards. Can either system push 1080P at full FPS at this time? No, they cannot. Must operate at 1080i or 720p as it affects FPS. Is AA an essential add on, yes. Because they both go hand in hand. The reason most consoles do not support AA is because of the major performance hit it can cause games. The reason consoles don't cost $1000 like decent gaming PC's is because we would not buy them, so they give us sub-par technology and push it as next gen. With the advent of new technology and the capability of mobile processors, we may see a much more powerful, yet smaller system hit the market in the next few years that may finally compare to a PC. It is possible to run a game at 1080p without AA, but there are still jagged edges and errors. We need new consoles as the outdated technology just cannot provide the power. As a certified computer tech and an avid gamer, I can state that today's consoles just do not push 1080p performance like a PC can. Until it can, the console will always be inferior in regards to power and graphics.
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