Sony Computer Entertainment has already confirmed that it had started development of its next-generation PlayStation 4 video game console, but the company now also said recently that it would not discuss peculiarities of the system for some time. Nonetheless, game developers believe that the PS4 is not too far away.
"PlayStation 3 is really just hitting its stride. Technologically, I don’t think it’s possible to provide any advancement beyond what we have. What we’ve seen from the competition is trying to add features that already exist in PlayStation 3. We invested heavily in that, we rolled a very heavy rock up a steep hill, through the launch period. But now I think that all pays off, and we’ve got a long run way behind it. So, I wouldn’t look for any discussion of a next generation PlayStation for quite some time," said Jack Tretton, chief executive officer of Sony Computer Entertainment America, in an interview with Forbes.
Sony officially confirmed the development of the PS4, but said that it would not spend the same amount of money on development of the next-gen console as it spent on the PlayStation 3.
Interestingly, but game developers already said that they expect the PlayStation 4 and/or third-generation Xbox to emerge by 2014.
"We obviously talk to everybody, and everybody talks to us. We have some intelligence to go on that, by early 2014, we're pretty sure there'll be at least one next-generation console on the market," said David Grijns, newly appointed managing director of Avalanche Studios. in an interview with Edge Magazine.
Even though there are expectations that neither Microsoft nor SCE keep to their ten years product cycles for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, specifics about the next-gen consoles are not available at this point. It is logical to expect better looking games, stereo-3D support, motion sensing in different kinds of applications and so on. However, it remains to be seen what new gameplay-related features will designers implement for the games of the next decade.
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Discussion started: 06/21/11 02:23:18 PM
Latest comment: 06/23/11 08:02:11 PM
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Tell me when they SLi the GPU inside the PS3 or be able to run OpenGL 4 applications, then we'll talk about not being able to improve the PS3.
06/21/11 02:23:18 PM]
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"PlayStation 3 is really just hitting its stride. Technologically, I don’t think it’s possible to provide any advancement beyond what we have."
^^^ What a ridiculous statement from that guy!! PS3 has long been maxed out, despite what these developers keep saying. It has an ancient GF7900 GPU inside that can't do Tessellation or DX11.
Dice's talented team will only be able to provide BF3 at 720P at 30fps on PS3. I think this clearly is the end of the line for PS3/Xbox360 - they just can't run modern games at reasonable settings.
And how does he think there is little to improve upon? If every game was guaranteed to run at 1080P at 60fps on PS4, that alone would be a huge improvement (esp. for racing, FPS games). Nevermind 3D gaming.
deltatux, not sure why you are so excited about OpenGL 4. DirectX is the dominant API. Either way, games are coded directly to the hardware on consoles. So there is no API in place or an OS overhead.
Finally, there is no need to SLI the GPU inside PS4 (that would create too much noise, increase probability of component failure and create potential GPU scaling issues, as well as extra unnecessary heat). Even if PS4 uses a 28nm version of a GTX560, it will be 8-10x faster than the RSX GPU.
06/21/11 04:15:44 PM]
so cod runs at lower than 720 phttp://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
i cant believe how nuts people are going over the 30fps issuejust about every game runs at 30fps on the consoles it should not have suprised anyone that bf3 would too (i knew it months ago when repi from dice said so)also bf3 will be upscaled from 720p to 1080p just like all the other games on consoles are (except cod is upscaled from 960x544 resolution lol)
(aww the dude above me edited his post)
06/21/11 04:28:53 PM]
1. People are going nuts over 30 fps issue because racing and FPS games (outside of Crysis 1) look horrible when run at only 30 fps. But if you aren't bothered by it, that's fine. However, people who have played games since Quake 2/3 and UT99 time will want at least 60 fps, if not more in a fast paced FPS. In this case, I'd rather take the 60 fps of COD than 30 fps of BF3, despite higher resolution of the latter.
2. The point I was trying to make is that since BF3 can only run at 30 fps @ 720P, that clearly shows that the available power on current consoles is completely maxed out. Not only that but they will run this game in DX9 only. Right now the performance hit going from DX9 to DX11 is about 1 - 1.5 GPU generations (i.e., HD4890 in DX9 will run a game about as fast as an HD6970 in DX11). Basically, if PS3 could utilize DX11 in theory, its performance would be halved once again to just 15 fps due to the added complexity of DX11 (and that's without adding Tessellation).
3. The sad truth is most console buyers still try to argue that PS3 and Xbox360 have great graphics. It is this type of a mentality which has held back the graphical progress since 2008. Because console buyers are willing to spend $300 on consoles with outdated graphics, PS4 and Xbox next are not on the horizon yet. I used to own consoles (Sega Genesis, SNES, N64) and I was always excited when new generation of consoles would come out (and want it to come out as soon as possible). Yet, this "new" generation of gamers keep clinging to their 6 year old consoles for dear life -- actually not wanting progress. It really shocks me as a gamer because if I was a current owner of a PS3/360, I'd want a next generation console RIGHT NOW.
4. From point #4 above, given the resistance of current console owners to finally ditch PS3/Xbox360, this tells me that they either have low standards OR that they are mostly 16-year-olds who have part-time jobs and can't afford a new $500 console (....5+ years after release of PS3!).
06/22/11 06:28:21 AM]
PC gaming is where it is at. Playing on a console just screams you're a teenager who has no money to do any real gaming so you wimped out and had your mom buy you a PS3 or 360 for Christmas.
06/21/11 11:13:54 PM]
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I bought a PS3 for the games that are not available on PCs. Specifically, certain RPGs. Discussing FPSes on consoles is quite redundant.
06/23/11 08:02:11 PM]
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