FOLLOW UP: AMD Denies Building Chips at IBM's Factories.
Advanced Micro Devices has disclosed at an analyst event that it had begun manufacturing of its chips at IBM's facilities. The partnership is believed to ensure AMD's ability to supply its next-generation A-series Fusion chips code-named "Trinity" to PC makers and be in position to compete against Intel Corp.'s Core i-series future products.
"We win together, we have partnership in good times and in difficult times. What we are seeing is a focus on execution running test chips through the [production] line to gather the data [...] with partners from IBM and Globalfoundries," said Rory Read, chief executive officer of AMD.
Officially, AMD produces its central processing unit (CPUs) exclusively at Globalfoundries (GF), a contract manufacturer of semiconductors controlled by an Abu Dhabi-based financial organization called ATIC and AMD. The chip designer complained throughout 2011 about low production yield at Globalfoundries and even signed an agreement under which it paid GF on per working chips basis, not on per wafer basis.
Production of chips at IBM facilities means a number of things, the most important of which is increased ability to compete in terms of volume with Intel. While Intel runs more than five leading-edge semiconductor making fabs across the world and those facilities by definition can produce times more chips than IBM and GF combined, it is clear that added manufacturing capacity will be good for AMD.
For a number of times AMD noted about better availability of Trinity APU compared without elaboration. Apparently, better availability is conditioned by adding a new manufacturing facility as well as improved design of the chip itself.
According to performance benchmarks conducted by AMD, the Trinity 35W APU with Piledriver-class x86 cores will provide 25% better x86 performance compared to Llano 35W (with K10.5+ "Husky" x86 cores) based on results obtained in PC Mark Vantage Productivity benchmark. AMD also claims that Trinity 35W will offer up to 50% better result in 3D Mark Vantage performance benchmark compared to Llano 35W.
Tags: AMD, IBM, Semiconductor, Globalfoundries, 32nm
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I remember I read that IBM forced intel to make AMD manufacture It's chips to use them in the IBM PC (IBM wanted competition)
how things have changed since then
IBM relied on AMD manufacturing chips for it, now it is the exact opposite
AMD designs chips for IBM to produce (Xbox 360, Fusin, ...)
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IBM should be a great addition to manufacturers for AMD
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Posted by: madooo12
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Date: 02/05/12 04:52:53 AM]
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IBM is just afraid that Intel will go so big that one day will takeover IBM itself who started all this.
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Posted by: pogsnet
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Date: 02/05/12 05:29:50 PM]
no, I think they were afraid of a monopoly by intel,
IBM is too big to be afraid from intel taking it over
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Posted by: madooo12
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Date: 02/06/12 01:10:33 AM]
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Did GF synchronize their 32nm fabs with IBM?
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Posted by: sirroman
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Date: 02/05/12 05:57:41 AM]
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They have same technology with GloFo since their R&D for fab is with alliance with both and SamSung.
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Posted by: pogsnet
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Date: 02/05/12 05:30:59 PM]
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IBM and GloFo are working together at GloFo's Malta, NY facility north of IBMs Catskill, NY facility. This has been known for several months. IBM has consulted for AMD Fabs in the past.
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Posted by: beenthere
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Date: 02/05/12 10:46:39 AM]
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Which "analyst event" was it? Sounds a little bit odd, that they did not comment on the topic during their huge analyst day presentations and just announce the information a few days later.
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Posted by: Bingle
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Date: 02/05/12 11:17:43 AM]
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This is good news! At least this time AMD has someone to fall back on if GLBF messes up bad again!
http://AMDFX.blogspot.com
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Posted by: polyzp
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Date: 02/05/12 12:12:19 PM]
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AMD is having a lot of trouble with foundries. TSMC screwed up their 40nm process and then totally skipped 32nm. Then GF botched the 32nm yields. At least it looks like TSMC is getting their 28nm right. I think AMD is doing the right thing getting IBM onboard so they will have more choices.
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Posted by: bbo320
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Date: 02/05/12 12:38:54 PM]
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actually TSMCs 28nm is bad
it isn't HKMG (High K metal gate) which they said it would be but is is silicon oxide (I think)
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Posted by: madooo12
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Date: 02/06/12 01:31:15 AM]
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Seems the relationship between Read and IBM is going somewhere. Read's tactics sounds good I think.
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Posted by: Pouria
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Date: 02/05/12 02:45:13 PM]
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What facilities IBM has? I mean in terms of production power.
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Posted by: Azazel
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Date: 02/05/12 08:13:15 PM]
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Anton,
did you make your news from AMD citation during CC only?
If so, i think you are wrong, there is nothing of that there.
Rory just meant that GF's NY fab has started the production in Jan.
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Posted by: Azazel
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Date: 02/05/12 08:57:30 PM]
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am fessing to not having read it - but lets not forget the economics of fabs - $5b per - u have to keep em pumping 24/7 - the days of real men have fabs are over unless u can keep em real busy
doesnt make sense anyway - u cant predict the popularity of your chips - it seems inarguable to subcontract to fabs or engage in it if u have a fab
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Posted by: msroadkill612
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Date: 02/05/12 09:26:57 PM]
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my 2c is that the 28nm brazos may be the killer - do we really need 4 cores in a mobile?
brazos does way sub 18 watts now @ 40nm - 28nm sounds way cool
super light (minimal batteries) easily all day or maybe two & good graphics
it may even do for most desktops
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Posted by: msroadkill612
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Date: 02/05/12 09:44:44 PM]
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I think brazos would be great for desktops
it's all the average user needs, remember > 50% of all Internet users use facebooks and I can safely say 85% of them only use it, also you have many business users who only use office and stuff and schools can buy cheaper chips which can do everything they want; so brazos would be great to meet their needs
BTW AMD said that most of the power savings would mostly come from architectural improvements, only a small portion would come from process shrinks
tirinity has half the power consumption of llano with the same performance on the same process
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