In a bid to regain positions in the market of high-performance graphics cards, Advanced Micro Devices is reportedly preparing a number of new graphics cards that use the company’s top-of-the-range graphics processing units (GPUs), but fit into $199 - $399 price gap.
According to a variety of media reports, ATI, graphics product group of AMD, is mulling about ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro and GT graphics solutions, which would feature cut-down ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT technology. Currently no actual information is available, despite of the fact that the launch of such products should be imminent if the Sunnyvale, California-based graphics chips designer wants to sell it during back-to-school season.
Already now AMD ships ATI FireGL V7600 professional graphics accelerator, which comes with fully-fledged ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT/R600 chip with 320 unified shader processing units, but features 256-bit memory bus instead of 512-bit memory bus on the high-end models. Theoretically, ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro and GT may also feature 256-bit memory bus and even reduced amount of shader processors.
Currently AMD has no DirectX 10-compliant products to compete against Nvidia’s GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB as well as GeForce 8600 GTS graphics cards that retail for $199 and $299. The firm originally promised that dual-chip ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT graphics card named “Gemini” would rival the GeForce 8600 GTS, but the part is nowhere to be found, whereas the competitor for the GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB has never been even announced.
Currently AMD has a gap in its DirectX 10 lineup starting from $179 and ending at $399. To fill that gap the company either needs to tremendously accelerate its efforts and release the code-named RV670 product, which is believed to be the company’s new-generation performance-mainstream part, in October or November, which is unlikely to happen, or present one or two cut-down versions of its Radeon HD 2900-series offerings.
Officials for AMD did not comment on the news-story.
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION: Contrary to the reports and expectations, ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro graphics card features fully-fledged ATI R600 graphics processor with 320 unified shader processors, 16 texture units, 16 render back ends and 512-bit memory controller as the ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT model. For details read our news-story “AMD Says ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro – Limited Edition Product”.
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"AMD is mulling about ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro and GT graphics solutions, which would feature cut-down ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT technology."
How can you feature-cut a GPU that's already bad?
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Posted by: koosh

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Date: 08/23/07 09:28:36 AM]
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omg you fanboy the 2900XT is a good card and the GT is going to be even better.
stop reading slashdot all day and actually TRY a card before you bash it. I have a 2900XT and I can run crysis on FULL AA ok.
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Posted by: ATIFTW

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Date: 08/23/07 09:32:49 AM]
Sorry but I have the same opinion as Koosh.. and I buy ATI for quite some time now.
this r600 is just a joke... and it looks more like a joke if you consider all the fanfare AMD/ATI did about the r600 before it gets released...
from all the reviews I read, this r600 chip seems to run hotter and slower and its rival...
it doesn't mean it can't run your games. It means it is slower and hotter than what the competition can offer for the same, or a very similar, price...
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Posted by: tof

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Date: 08/23/07 11:32:05 AM]
Well I wouldn't exactly call it a joke, it isn't that bad... but it certainly runs slower and hotter than the GeForce 8 series. The only thing that saves the Radeon HD series is their prices, which are quite fair. I've heard ATI is going multi-GPU as of next-gen so I hope that will bring them back in the hot seat, this round goes to nVidia.
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Posted by: fastpunk

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Date: 08/23/07 05:40:48 PM]
Yeah, the 2900 is pretty lame compated to the 8800s, but still, it's a damn fine card that can play games on high. I mean, if you can't tell the difference after 30 fps, who gives? Does it really matter if you get 125fps or 150? You can't tell unless you play the game through a high speed camera.
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Posted by: nuff

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Date: 08/23/07 06:07:15 PM]
NITWIT.
NO you can't tell the difference between 125 and 150fps but thats in current ugly games.
In future games its going to be 20fps for AMD compared to 35fps for nvidia. You would notice that difference. One is playable one is not, and u end up paying a lot for electricity bills running 2900XT. Enjoy you AMD lemons.
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Posted by: Mr. BonBon

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Date: 08/23/07 08:47:29 PM]
Mr.Bonbon, go blow youself.
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Posted by: nuff

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Date: 08/24/07 06:17:33 AM]
Although admittedly it doesn't translate directly to ingame performance at the moment, with 320 unified shaders the R600 is an absolute monster for GPGPU calculations (which is becoming more important for both companies, look at nVidia's "tesla" stuff for example).
You may find that future games shift more physics and such onto the GPU, in which case the R600 should outshine the G80.
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Posted by: dw

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Date: 09/09/07 09:03:27 AM]
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Despite your complaints I have three words to say. NVIDIA Vista drivers. The developers of Crysis are complaining quite a bit about the lack of stability in the drivers they for their 8800 and that's why we have DX9 demos of the game instead of DX10.
Part of the delay was to have good Vista drivers, but I don't really think that was a good move on AMD's part. In some ways the 2900 is superior to the 8800GTX. There are some cases in which it dose better, but I do belive the decision to cut back on texture units was one of the big things that hurt in in older and even some more recent games.
I would welcome a cut down 2900 so long as they don't cut out texture units. Disabling some of the stream processors would help cut down on power usage, but because of it's design cutting down the memory bus may hurt it too much. For my own system I'm fine with my 1950GT, but as I do build systems for others I think it would be an interesting option. We will just have to wait and see.
I wouldn't hold my breath on a dual 2600XT solution. If anyone will produce that it will probably be Saphire.
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Posted by: Megamanx00

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Date: 08/23/07 03:21:02 PM]
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA.....
Don't even get me started. With the 8800GTS 320 for $270... $299 today.... what hope does AMD have? By the time they release their delayed paper launch products, nvidia will come up with a product refresh and embarrass AMD all over again.
R600 is a failure, plain and simple. AMD doesn't even have a card that can compete with 8800GTX.
oh and their CEO just quit. Rats leaving a sinking boat.
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Posted by: Mr. BonBon

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Date: 08/23/07 08:43:05 PM]
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Hector Ruiz resigned? Are you referring to AMD's former Chief Sales and Marketing Officer Henri Richard? Yes, Richard resigned, but he wasn't their CEO.
Way to fling the FUD. Get your facts straight.
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Posted by: realitycheck

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Date: 08/24/07 05:16:41 AM]
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Yeah idiot, can't you even read??? Where did you get that information? Off your dream boat?
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Posted by: Mr. Bonbon is stupid

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Date: 08/24/07 06:19:23 AM]
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To almost all the dumb dumbs posted before.
ATI 2900XT consumes less power than one 8800GTX!!!!
The Ati have 1024MB RAM and the other 768MB!!!!
The big problem is that most review compare it to the 8800GTS 640MB/384MB which is misleading. This cards are both castrated so they obviously consume less power!!!
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2159&p age=5
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Posted by: eltoro

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Date: 08/27/07 03:12:33 AM]
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"Currently AMD has no DirectX 10-compliant products to compete against Nvidia’s GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB as well as GeForce 8600 GTS graphics cards that retail for $199 and $299."
Shoulden´t it be more like 8800 gtx and ultra?
Specially if u look into the dx10 software segment.
They now compete with 8800 gts 640/320 at a higher pricepoint.
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Date: 08/28/07 04:49:52 AM]
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